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2009년 3월 1일 일요일

9살 소녀의 피켓팅



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"우리 도서관의 문을 닫지 마세요(Don't Close Our Library)"

 

9살 소녀(초등학교 4학년)인 그레이스 돌(Grace Doll)과 친구들이 거리 시위에 나섰다.

 

우리나라 이야기는 아니다. 미국 이야기다. 미국에서도 네브래스카의 링컨 시에서의 일이다. 미국의 도서관 사정은 경제적 위기 상황 속에서 급격하게 나빠지고 있다. 여러 도시에서 도서관 분관의 폐쇄가 잇따르고 있다. 그런 가운데 경제적 위기 상황일수록 도서관 이용률이 더 높아진다는 조사 결과도 발표되고 있다. 미국도서관협회(ALA)는 도서관의 필요성을 옹호할 수 있도록 각종 자료들을 묶은 툴킷을 마련하기도 하였다.

 

이런 상황 속에서 네브래스카 링컨 시의 도서관 이사회가 사우스 분관 등의 폐쇄를 결정할 조짐을 보이자 2살 때부터 이 도서관을 이용했던 그레이스 돌이라는 여학생이 도서관 폐쇄에 반대하는 피켓팅에 나섰다는 소식이 '저널스타'라는 지역 신문 인터넷판에 올라왔다. 아래의 기사는 그 전문.

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원문출처: http://journalstar.com/articles/2009/02/23/news/local/doc49a34508f32ac868685364.txt#cancel

Students rally after hearing library branches may close

By the Lincoln Journal Star

Monday, Feb 23, 2009 - 06:56:43 pm CST
 

Nine-year-old Grace Doll and her friends often visit Lincoln’s South Branch Library.

So when the Sheridan Elementary fourth-grader heard the Library Board was proposing the closing of the South and Bethany branches to save money, she recruited classmates to rally after school Monday to support the 27th and South streets library.

“I’ve been coming here since I was 2, and when I heard about its possible closing I wanted to do something about it,” she said Monday, taking a break from the protest. “It wasn’t hard to get my friends involved. They love reading and they just love to come here.”

 

Grace and her friends spent the weekend making posters and fliers urging support of the library. And she shared her protest plans with the City Council and Mayor Chris Beutler, who appeared at the rally.

In her e-mail to city leaders, she wrote: “I do not think closing the libraries would be a good decision. The libraries are in a great location and are easy to get to. They provide computers for people who may not own one. ... Please consider the thought of keeping these libraries open.”

The Library Board is expected to finalize its budget proposal during its 8 a.m. meeting Tuesday at Bennett Martin Public Library, 136 S. 14th St.

 
 
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The Lincoln Library Board of Trustees recommended closing 2 branch libraries to save money. The board met Tuesday morning to consider its budget. The board voted 3-2 to propose closing the Bethany and South branch libraries in order to balance the fiscal year 2009-2010 budget.

 

Pat Leach, Director of Lincoln Libraries, says they have to cut the budget by 9%, which means cutting the current budget by more than $750,000.

 

Bob Beecham spoke out, on behalf of his neighborhood near the South branch, about how he believes closing the branch libraries could impact the community.

 

"If the South branch library leaves, it's going to create a huge whole in our neighborhood. We fear it will not come back and we are concerned about what use will be made of that building," Beecham said.

 

According to Leach, those branches are facing the cuts becuase they will have the least impact on the library system.

The vote is not final yet. The Lincoln City Council will vote on the issue in August.

 

Board members say they tested a number of different ideas and cutting the South and Bethany branches will have the least impact on Lincoln's library system. Leach says the board will ask that the two branches remain open if funds become available.


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폐쇄될 위기에 놓인 링컨 시의 사우스 분관에서 근무했던 코린 프리쉬(Corrine Frisch)의 글.

 

원문출처: http://www.sj-r.com/opinions/x844647947/In-My-View-Library-s-branches-should-be-closed

 

In My View: Library’s branches should be closed

THE STATE JOURNAL-REGISTER
Posted Feb 28, 2009 @ 12:01 AM
 

“The library connects us with the insight and knowledge, painfully extracted from Nature, of the greatest minds that ever were, with the best teachers, drawn from the entire planet and from all our history, to instruct us without tiring, and to inspire us to make our own contribution to the collective knowledge of the human species. I think the health of our civilization, the depth of our awareness about the underpinnings of our culture and our concern for the future can all be tested by how well we support our libraries.”

— “Cosmos,” Carl Sagan

 

I worked for Lincoln Library, Springfield’s public library, for nearly 30 years as its public relations director. The library, as all city departments, was forced to tighten its belt in lean years. Time after time, the issue of closing branches in order to consolidate resources at the main library was part of the cost-saving conversations. But the library branches are political hot potatoes, especially for the aldermen in whose districts they reside. None of them has been brave enough to champion closing the branches in order to provide better library services for the community.

 

In a perfect world, Springfield would have four library branches (as it once did). West Branch would be located in the White Oaks area. South Branch would be built in the area where Allis-Chalmers stood for so many years. East Branch would be near its current location, but in a large, new building. North Branch would be located near Sangamon Center.

 

The current branches are old, small and inadequate. I know the staff provides excellent, neighborly service, but now their hours will be cut even further. How many times do you need to poke a life preserver until it finally deflates?

 

When people have to choose between utilities, police and fire protection, the library always becomes the poor cousin.

 

Consolidating library resources into one, central location, would be a wiser and more efficient use of tax dollars. People complain that it’s difficult to come downtown, but that doesn’t stop them from driving, or taking the bus to the mall. They complain there is no place to park. There is ample parking underneath the library for a nominal fee, and the parking there is free after 4:30 p.m. and on Saturdays and Sundays.

 

I’m the first to empathize with those nostalgic for the good old days. But pouring money into the broken, mold infested North Branch is a bad idea. Wouldn’t it be better to close all the branch locations and concentrate on a long range plan to build the kind of library branches the capital city of Illinois deserves? In the meantime, a well-equipped book mobile could provide city-wide service on a regular schedule. Consolidating staff at the main library would perhaps allow librarians more time to do programs at schools and for community groups.

 

My daughter lives in Lexington, Ky. Its library system puts ours to shame. She lives in a very modest neighborhood but her library branch is less than 15 years old. Each time I visit, it reminds me that our library branches are embarrassments to a city that Lincoln thought of as home and from which Barack Obama saw fit to launch his campaign.

 

I grew up going to South Branch on South Grand Avenue (now a chili parlor). I remember finding a book of poetry there and I have loved poetry ever since. It was a grand place, but timbers rot and mold grows. Let us work to give our children, our grandchildren, ourselves, and our grandparents, spacious, comfortable buildings full of the knowledge and wonder books provide. Let’s begin by letting go of the past, and planning for the future.

 

Corrine Frisch was public relations director for Lincoln Library for 30 years.

 

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사진설명: University of Nebraska volleyball player, Amanda Gates reads at the South Branch Library in Lincoln for Read Across America Day.
사진출처:  www.readaloudnebraska.org/vips.html

 

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원문출처: http://journalstar.com/articles/2009/02/23/news/local/doc49a34508f32ac868685364.txt#cancel

 

sheridan wrote on February 23, 2009 7:29 pm:
" don't worry sheridan young'uns - I'm sure anything that might negatively impact you will be taken care of by your parents. "

great job wrote on February 23, 2009 7:30 pm:
" Great job kids! I hope the powers that be listen to you and save South Branch--I love that library also! "

Ted Haubrich wrote on February 23, 2009 8:11 pm:
" Please keep the library open. It may not be the biggest or newest or fanciest, but it serves an icredibly critical and curcial role in the Near South neighborhood. I also am pretty sure the percentage of Lincoln's budget that this branch uses is an incredibly small number, and one well worth paying for all the good this library does. "

Harry the antenna guy wrote on February 23, 2009 8:38 pm:
" Great opportunity for the kids to get out a learn a civics lesson - rally for your cause. Hope you enjoyed it and learned a lot. Now for the economics lesson - find the money for your cause otherwise your cause will be gone. "

Way to go wrote on February 23, 2009 8:47 pm:
" Grace, you are great example for other young people in this community. Stand up for what you believe in! I would have rallied with Grace had I known she was there supporting our local libraries. I live near the South Street Library and use a wheelchair, this library is easier for me to access than trying to get a bus and be dropped off downtown or at other locations. I know plenty of other people who utilize the South Street Library and have limitations that are not able to access other city libraries. "

Fishy wrote on February 23, 2009 9:19 pm:
" If city officials want to save money then they should cut the excessive benefits that city workers get. The benefits should be no more than the benefits the taxpayers who support the city workers get. It seems to me the government workers were to serve the public but now it appears we are serving them. "

u go girl wrote on February 23, 2009 9:22 pm:
" I am with you girls. I went to the library on 27th and South once and it was full of people. A small library is cheaper to run and easier for parents to keep track of their kids.

The one thing I thought was that they ought to serve coffee in there to help pay the bills. why not? "

suliemon wrote on February 23, 2009 9:42 pm:
" keep all the libraries open. A great place to save money is to privatize some of the city golf courses. I have lived around the world and I have never seen so many golf courses city owned as here in Lincoln. Oh, and by the way, I am a golfer! "

Fantastic wrote on February 23, 2009 9:47 pm:
" Love to hear our children are taking a stand on this issue. I, too, would have attended the rally had I known.

Neighborhood libraries are an anchor to the area served. Without these anchors, the neighborhood starts to suffer.

Too many things continue to move to the 'new' areas of town. Those of us living in the 'Heart'of the city, have the same needs.

Please keep our libraries open. "

Sheridan parent wrote on February 23, 2009 10:01 pm:
" To "sheridan"- I am sure you were trying to be snarky, but in any case, I don't think any of us can singlehandedly save the South branch. And this library truly benefits many near south residents who are NOT financially well off. Grace pointed out something that many don't understand- people can't do everything online if they don't have computers at home. People rely on libraries for computer access. It will be an awful thing if the South branch closes. It is a place that means a lot to our neighborhood. Seeing kids like Grace in action gives me faith that the world isn't such a terrible place. "

throwing away the good life wrote on February 23, 2009 10:11 pm:
" Neighborhood libraries, parks, recreation centers, and swimming pools are fundamental to the quality of life in our community. If we close them, we throw away generations worth of investment in the good life. "

apology needed wrote on February 23, 2009 10:39 pm:
" Sheridan's comment is rude.

I support these students efforts. They're standing up for something they believe in. And I do too! "

Library User wrote on February 23, 2009 11:58 pm:
" While I applaud these youngsters, I would also like to point out that the budget has to be trimmed by more than $630,000. When I took a look on Mapquest at the South Branch Library and the other libraries in proximity to it, I found out that Gere Branch is only 2.08 miles from South (a 4 minute drive). I found that Bennett Martin downtown is only 2.24 miles (a 5 minute drive) and Bess Dodson Walt is 4.84 miles (a 10 minute drive). While I feel for the neighborhood, it is not a though there is NOT a library close by. I would venture to bet that most of the people who DRIVE to South (we've been hearing about the always full parking lot) could DRIVE the 4-5 minutes down the road to another branch. I'm sorry but times are tough and unless we all want higher taxes, we are going to have to sacrifice. "

GMP wrote on February 24, 2009 1:08 am:
" Would the parents of these children be willing to volunteer their time in the evenings/after school to keep them open? That would save the city money, and help the children also. Any retired people willing to help? The only way we are going to keep all of the things we are used to is to work a little to keep them. Costs are way up, and unfortunately, revenue is way down. We can't expect the city to keep providing everything for us. "

JAzzy wrote on February 24, 2009 6:49 am:
" I think the libraries should stay open also. but I think that the major problem would be the upkeep. Think about this you parents that don't have daycare. How many of you, tell your kids to go to the library after school? I have been in some of the libraries after school gets out and they are the most unrulely kids I have seen. Maybe the parents that send their kids there, should start paying for the service of having ther kids being watched by these people that manage and volunteer their time. Paying to let your kids "hangout" should be worth about at least $5.00 a day ... 20 kids a day for 5 days- that would be $500 in the library coffer. Now you multiply that by all the libraries in town and that would probably cover the cost to not close the older libraries. So parents if you have been using the library as a "FREE" babysitting service ...think again. I myself know that their hours have been shifted and people have been layoff. Libraries need to stay open and be used for what they were intended for. And not all the kids are unrulely. I am sure the library employees have been doing a survey within themselves to see what hours are best to stay open and when to close. "

DRC wrote on February 24, 2009 9:07 am:
" I'm happy to see that these young girls are standing up for their local library! If it stays open then then good for you girls however if it doesnt atleast you tried!.. "

ogre wrote on February 24, 2009 9:08 am:
" why not consolodate all of the libraries into one giant library downtown like some major cities due to attract more people there? change all the budgeting through donations (physical and monetary), ease of access points for check out and return, volunteers to staff it and goodwill donations of educational material (i.e. computers, software, internet, teaching material) set up transportation vouchers for local families to be able to get to the library or mobile book mobiles in neighborhoods. less billing. "

park ave wrote on February 24, 2009 9:18 am:
" Actually, we walk to the South branch library all the time. So do our neighbors. Even though other branches may seem to be a small number of miles away, it is the difference between walking and driving. I am hopeful that people will slowly move towards less reliance on cars, and that neighborhood libraries, business, etc.. will be there when that happens. "

Move books wrote on February 24, 2009 9:28 am:
" Move the books to the schools. Why again can't Lincoln's schools and libraries function together? Why do we need separate buildings? "

to move books wrote on February 24, 2009 12:11 pm:
" Yes, bums looking at pornography in the schools, that's a great idea...NOT! "

sheridan mom wrote on February 24, 2009 1:37 pm:
" To GMP: Yes! I would be willing to volunteer at this library branch if it would help keep it open. I'm sure I'm not alone. "

lincoln_lover wrote on February 24, 2009 7:43 pm:
" Wonderful job, Grace. I'm with you. Closing libraries should not be the answer to a budget short. I fully support those kids who were standing out there in a cold day and hope the decision makers will make a better and smarter dicision. "

- wrote on February 27, 2009 7:19 am:
" I dont think people understand how many of us walk to South Branch. I am sixteen and have been going there my whole life, without this library i wouldn't have had the chance to go to any libraries your "4-5 minute drive" would make it nearly impossible for many children to make it to a library at all. Putting a library downtown? downtown is crazy enough we dont need to add to it, how many children can walk to see their library if its downtown? I'm sixteen and I refuse to drive downtown, let alone walk. Paying for library services defeats the purpose of a library, if it costs, why not go to a bookstore? South Branch was the first place i had ever volunteered at and i was able to do that because it was in walking distance from my home.

Please save our library!
--i would be more than willing to volunteer again, as would many many others. "
 
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원문출처: http://journalstar.com/articles/2009/02/20/news/local/doc499de9ab1f8c7232161788.txt

 

Outraged wrote on February 20, 2009 1:07 am:
" What's wrong with this picture? The Mayor and City Council are digging an enormous, ornate hole in the ground (Antelope Valley) while they threaten services to our children, police, fire, and our most frail elderly. "

Matt Platte wrote on February 20, 2009 1:12 am:
" Libraries are the information - books, tapes, discs, etc. - found inside the building. The building itself is unimportant. "

times are different wrote on February 20, 2009 2:05 am:
" Close them. You have to prioritize in times like this. For example, my family has gone through tough financial times before, and we have always been OK. This current storm will to pass. BUt we have had to make cuts we never have before:

1.) No more cable
2.) No more cell phone
3.) No more internet

I never thought I would ever see the day I would get rid of either, but times are tough. WHne things turn around, I will reconsdier, and most likely resume those services, but until then, those items are not absoluetly vital, so they can go. The library is the same way, it is a luxury, and in the end it is not near as important as say, streets, public safety, water, electricty etc.

Tough times call fro tough actions "

Bethany Resident wrote on February 20, 2009 5:17 am:
" There is nothing else left in that area. You have several larger school, Brownell, Kahao and Pershing not to mention Havelock. Why can't you promote your library and develop more summer programs to bring the kids in. "

tim wrote on February 20, 2009 5:21 am:
" tough times call for tough decisions. if they need to be closed, close them. "

Snoop wrote on February 20, 2009 5:49 am:
" While I understand the need to keep an eye on the budget, it's sad to see these neighborhood branches close. Especially in hard times, libraries provide services to people looking for information, inspiration and perhaps hope and escape through reading. These two branches have been there for their neighborhoods and especially for youngsters. Even with access to a wealth of information on the internet, the public library continues to be a very important resource in any community. "

Galen wrote on February 20, 2009 5:56 am:
" Sometimes we have to make decisions that aren't popular. If the city cannot afford to keep them open, then close the doors. Everyone will survive. "

Just think wrote on February 20, 2009 7:01 am:
" A couple of years ago we just had to have a couple of more libraries, and I think that they built four new ones. I cannot imagaine now thinking of closing some down. This is madness!!!!!!!!!! "

georgie wrote on February 20, 2009 7:43 am:
" they only built two new ones which get a tremendous amount of use. libraries are vital -- information that is free to all incomes of society without discretion is extremely important to a democratic society. "

Buddha wrote on February 20, 2009 7:45 am:
" The library board needs to propose some other options to save these two locations:

1) Reduce the hours at ALL locations.
2) Reduce the hours at the quadrant locations (as referred to in the article) and have the branches open two or three days a week as opposed to five.
3) Reduce the hours at ALL locations and have the quadrants open only four days a week, and the branches open only 2 or 3 days. "

Doug wrote on February 20, 2009 7:52 am:
" The Bethany branch is the closest to my home, but I have to admit I haven't been there in years. I visit other libraries, depending on what I need, regularly. The Bethany branch is too small to carry the variety of items available at other libraries. I hate to see libraries close, but it may be time considering the circumstances. "

If wrote on February 20, 2009 8:17 am:
" If you can close one or two, why not five? Or all but one? "

JAZZY wrote on February 20, 2009 8:18 am:
" I think if people are cutting back on the small luxuries, maybe the county and city should also. cut the cable service to the jails and detention centers. What are the figures for cutting those services? "

government watchdog wrote on February 20, 2009 8:23 am:
" "times are different" raises the reasons WHY libraries are vital in times like these - as people save their dollars by doing away with cable, newspapers and internet they go to the LIBRARY to read the paper and surf the internet to find a job, learn about food stamps and unemployment benefits, how to weathrize their home, etc.

Every econonic recession pushes library (read as FREE) usuage up to higher rates. "

Mike wrote on February 20, 2009 8:24 am:
" Won't matter because in a few months we'll be burning all the books just to keep warm. "

Dianne wrote on February 20, 2009 8:25 am:
" I think we should close at least one of the newer large libraries and open a couple of smaller libraries so that they are more convenient to people who are trying to save on gas. Besides it would save a lot of money as opposed to closing buildings that are already paid for. "

Library patron wrote on February 20, 2009 8:28 am:
" I use the public libraries all throughout the city on an average of 4 times a week. I would hate to see ANY of them closed or hours reduced.
I completely disagree with the post "libraries are a luxury". Libraries promote literacy and thinking and community. In a time where families are having to cut back, this is one resource families should be able to utilize. The neighborhood library is VITAL to the community and to families. "

Dont like it but... wrote on February 20, 2009 8:28 am:
" I love the library. I go as often as I can. But times are tough, very tough. And if it meant closing my closest library, then I'd be for it. I'd be willing to drive/walk further if it meant I could still go to a library.

It's not a popular idea, but it's probably an idea that needs to be considered. "

Libraries a Must wrote on February 20, 2009 8:29 am:
" Libraries are a must in Lincoln however the Bethany Branch is the closest to me but I go to the Gere Library on South, because it has more resources. Close Bethany now and in few years build a larger, updated library in Northeast Lincoln. Also, more online materials are great when library hours are shortened. "

Carol wrote on February 20, 2009 8:30 am:
" Every time I go into South Branch Library, which is often, I see teens using the computers and reference consoles, younger children in the children's section, parents and others - people who might not be able to utilize other branches farther way. I have transportation but I use South Branch BECAUSE it is smaller, and still find everything I need or want, either by reserving it and having it delivered there, or in their own adequate selections. There are too many other ways to cut the budget than closing this staple of that neighborhood. Closing South Branch library would be a HUGE mistake, and a disservice to the neighborhood and people it serves. And it certainly would send the wrong message to young people about what this town considers its priorities. "

Patron wrote on February 20, 2009 8:41 am:
" On their face, Buddha's ideas seem to have merit but simply reducing hours does not achieve the same kind of savings you see from closing a building, ie: lights, water, phone, gas, maintenance, insurance, security, computers, books etc. Reducing hours saves staffing costs, but the real expense savings comes from closing buildings as well as reducing staffing costs. If the libraries truly need to cut $675,000 from the budget, its likely it can't be done by cutting hours, some deep deep cuts are going to be needed. "

russell wrote on February 20, 2009 8:51 am:
" Why not do the obvious. Raise my taxes 5 measly dollars a month. That would provide the money to solve many of the upcoming service cuts. "

Beaker wrote on February 20, 2009 8:55 am:
" While this is sad to hear, it make sense. These two branches offer far fewer services than the larger ones. Shutting them down to Mon, Wed, Fri, Sat would make some sense. I don't know that another vacant public property helps much either. "

Wow wrote on February 20, 2009 9:11 am:
" When I moved here I was amazed at all the libraries, post offices, you
name it. Like one on every street corner. Where I lived in the big city
we had ONE library and you had to drive 15 miles to the next one which
was the main library. Years and years ago they closed all the post offices
and no postal boxes different streets to mail a letter. There was one
postoffice and you'd have to drive to the main one or the airport P.O. which was 15 & more miles. How does Lincoln rate for all the P.O.'s.??
There were no postal services in groceries like there are here. No wonder
the stamp costs are going up! But Lincoln knows how to spend, don't they! "

Jean wrote on February 20, 2009 9:20 am:
" It's only natural that the libraries in older parts of Lincoln can't offer the full range of services of the newer, bigger libraries (per the previous decisions of the city). However these smaller libraries do provide access to all the books, CD's, etc. of the whole library system--You don't have to go to Gere to check out a Gere book. It seems a shame to take away resources that already exist from the older parts of Lincoln--where there probably are proportionately more elderly and other persons less able to drive. "

terrible wrote on February 20, 2009 9:28 am:
" I just got a Library card 2 days ago at the Bethany Branch. I have already ordered books to be picked up at that location. It is the only location in Lincoln that I can get to at the end of the day. I am able to get any book from any branch and pick it up in Bethany. Maybe they should look at lowering the pay of the top officials to find that $675,000. I am sure they have some over paid people that are not as effective as the lady sitting at the desk making $8 per hour. Cut the big jobs, not the small jobs. "

South Resident wrote on February 20, 2009 9:51 am:
" The article cites fewer services (books and computers) at these locations. Interlibrary loan allows you to get a book from any of the libraries delivered to this location. Every time I've been to the south branch there has been a computer open. Sure it's smaller and less people probably go there than other locations, but I'm not seeing how there are fewer services. These smaller locations still serve a vital role. If the city can't get the budget to work, maybe they made the other libraries too big. Cuts should be made at all libraries proportionally to the number of patrons. "

Kim wrote on February 20, 2009 9:57 am:
" I love South Branch Library. It opened the same year I was born and it's the only library I patronize, in part because it's very convenient, but also because I like the smaller size. And if I need a book from the other libraries, they are open. Closing South branch would mean there isn't really a library in "central" Lincoln any more. "

Sean1 wrote on February 20, 2009 10:18 am:
" Public libraries in America started with Ben Franklin back in colonial times..they were thought to be (and are) that important.
Just goes to show how the US is in a deep, deep decline. "

Lives close to South Branch wrote on February 20, 2009 10:31 am:
" I drive past the South Branch library every day and I see the lot practically full. I haven't been inside a library in quite some time and I see where officials are getting at. Those people are complaining about the closing-everything right now is online. You can rent books online, cds, videos, etc. In my very honest opinion, libraries are becoming a thing of the past. "

Library Advocate wrote on February 20, 2009 10:47 am:
" Ooooh, I get so aggravated at the attitude that libraries are a luxury, or that it's ok to shut down smaller libraries!!! Libraries are NOT a luxury; they are the necessary access to so many services for those people who aren't fortunate enough to have resources at home. Neighborhood libraries are absolutely necessary to the non-vehicular popution, who rely on the proximity of the library to their home because they can't drive there (children, for sure!) To the person who says the building doesn't matter -- excuse me, but it DOES matter if it's close to your home and the only way you can get there is on foot, and if closing it means that you can't go there any more because the next closest library is too far away.

Libraries bring the have's and have nots into equality by providing resources and the internet for people who don't have computers at home. From some of the existing postings, I think there are some pretty unaware people who don't realize that cutting back on cable, internet, and cell phone means nothing to some people, because they don't have any of those. The library is their resource beyond rabbit ears and land line.

I agree with the poster who said to look at the high salaries for cut backs. The administrative costs of the city are out of control. The city "improvements" are out of line. Look at the reality and what people really need, and PLEASE find a way to hang on to the neighborhood libraries that are vital to the communities in which they reside.

Thank you for posting my soap box! "

Shane wrote on February 20, 2009 10:51 am:
" Welcome to the new Lincoln. Somehow we have forgotten that our grandparents and parents paid for libraries, swiming pools and other amenities even though they didn't all use them. They understood civic responsibility and that they needed to insure EVERYONE had axcess. Today's attitude is close everything that I am not personally using and what ever you do don't raise my taxes. In the mean time Lincoln continues to become more run down, the school board and county board show no fiscal restraint and Lincoln falls farther and farther behind. Hard to empathize when you are not in the situation. "

Near Souther wrote on February 20, 2009 11:33 am:
" While I am a heavy library user and live in the area, the only time I go to the South branch is to return books... I like the idea of collaborating with the nieghborhood schools to expand the hours they provide library service. Prescott, McPhee, Everett all have CLCs that could be utilized better to provide nice local options for neighborhood youth. "

rog wrote on February 20, 2009 12:22 pm:
" Glad to see some of you volunteering to pay for these much used libraries. I'm sure someone appreciates it. "

library employee wrote on February 20, 2009 12:22 pm:
" It's sad to me that the mayor talks about creating jobs in Lincoln, and everybody I work with is scared about losing their job. We work damn hard with dwindling resources--just like everybody else these days--and it's very gratifying to read the comments from people who appreciate what we do. Thank you very much. "

Keep em open wrote on February 20, 2009 12:33 pm:
" The tough economic times are exactly the reason we need to keep our libraries open. People are having to cut thier phone, internet, and driving times. Proximity to a library is key for people needing to use those services. Students use those computers to take online tests. Children ride their bikes there during the summer. Just because 'you' can look stuff up on the internet from home doesn't mean everyone else can. Lincoln doesn't need more empty buildings, it needs to keep up services to those who wish to use them. "

Buddha 2 wrote on February 20, 2009 1:41 pm:
" Cutting hours or closing on certain days will bring substantial savings. Omaha did it, and it prevented the outright closing of a branch. "

library user wrote on February 20, 2009 2:26 pm:
" The libraries have been making drastic cuts over the past few years to prevent these branches from closing. Any more hours and daytime workers will only be able to go to the library on the weekends. Cutting hours or closing branches, it will mean people losing jobs and their income to stimulate the local economy and their ability to pay property taxes. "

keep libraries and bookmobiles in my hood... wrote on February 20, 2009 2:48 pm:
" What about the north side, and heart of the city. close the swimming pools, they cost $$$ and people have illegal ones @ home anyway. Even w/ financial assistance i still can't afford to swim.
I can't imagine life w/ out library service, but please don't forget about the bookmobile, that serves the heart of lincoln, and senior citizens (who have paid taxes all their life). Who, can't get to other libraries, it's not fair that they built the new ones, just to forsake the old ones, and the bookmobile.
I believe that library services our a corner stone to our democracy! NOT A PRIVILEGE!
Save our library and Bookmobile. People do not realize, what the library means to marginalized people, or people living near the edge. a safe place a welcoming place, w/ books, dvds and videos and more, a place to warm up, or cool down, a place to get on line.
The library opens up the world to everyone, lets not close them for the people who NEED, and want them. "

I agree with Shane wrote on February 20, 2009 7:59 pm:
" I agree with Shane... I'm sick of this attitude in Lincoln that things never go up in cost and taxes should always stay the same or be lowered. Get real! Raise our taxes and let's start paying for our infrastructure, our libraries, snow removal, education and the other essential services that government should provide.

Call me crazy, but I would happily pay MORE in taxes to get a better city. I'm tired of living in a city that's always broke and run down. We need people with vision and leadership on the city council and in the mayor's office. What we have now just isn't working. "

andy wrote on February 21, 2009 5:12 am:
" just charge a small fee for use of libraries, for petes sake!! twenty dollars a year is not too much to ask. ridiculous "

Bethany supporter wrote on February 21, 2009 5:56 am:
" The Bethany branch is heavily used. People from the Cotner Condos have meetings there & the Mickle kids congregate their after school to use the internet, read magazines, etc. It's a small branch but well-used. During the summer, they've turned kids away because their volunteer times are all filled up. Please, please, please keep this branch open. Maybe make cuts in other areas like upper management salaries. "

Ihrtlincoln wrote on February 21, 2009 7:46 am:
" Libraries a necessary resource for an educated community. I'm proud that some think Lincoln has too many . . . shows that our parents had their priorities straight. I understand why they need to close two, but with that we are putting people in cars when before they could walk. It is really disturbing that "just drive" has become a recurring theme here in Lincoln lately. Packing people in cars destroys the community feel I love about Lincoln. "

JB wrote on February 21, 2009 9:12 am:
" Books are the last thing you would want to take away from people. "

Franklin wrote on February 21, 2009 8:51 pm:
" Libraries are a part of the public good. They are a sign and an advocation of civilized society. Closing libraries is the wrong way to go. "

2009년 2월 26일 목요일

학습하고 성찰하는 사회

2009 신년 대담]“경제위기 근본 성찰하고 학습하는 사회 되기를”

 

ㆍ한국사회를 말하다

신영복 성공회대 석좌교수(68)는 성찰하고 학습하는 사회를, 장회익 서울대학교 명예교수(71)는 자기가 살고 싶은 대로 사는 자유로운 세상의 도래를 이야기 했다. 두 교수는 지난 29일 경향신문 회의실에서 신년 대담을 갖고 새해에는 그런 세상이 올 수 있도록 노력했으면 좋겠다고 말했다. 그러나 그들의 소망이 이루어지기에는 새해 전망이 너무 어둡다. 그래도 두 교수는 그런 비관을 낙관으로 돌려 놓기 위해 해야 할 일들이 무엇인지를 말하는 데 주저하지 않았다.

신영복 교수-장회익 교수 대담

신영복 성공회대 석좌교수(왼쪽), 장회익 서울대 명예교수




사회(이대근 정치·국제에디터)=새해 소망을 말하기가 꺼려질 정도로 한 해의 전망이 어둡습니다. 그래도 우리 사회가 똑바로 가야 한다는 꿈을 포기할 수는 없을 것 같습니다.

장회익 교수(이하 장회익)=마음놓고 사는 세상이 왔으면 좋겠습니다. 자유롭고 창의적인 생활, 자기가 살고 싶은 대로 살 수 있는 그런 세상 말입니다. 그러나 갈수록 경제가 나빠지고, 생존위협을 받는 사람들이 늘어나고 있어 실제로는 안될 것 같습니다.

신영복 교수(이하 신영복)=새해도 다사다난할 것 같다는 전망이 많습니다. 그래도 새해가 근본적인 것들을 성찰하고 학습하는 한 해가 됐으면 합니다.
‘곤이지지(困而知之)’라고, 곤경을 겪고 깨달음을 얻는다고 하는 말이 있습니다. 우리는 역사적으로 IMF와 같은 많은 곤경을 겪었지만 곤경을 겪고도 깨닫지 못하는 ‘곤이부지’(困而不知) 상태인 것 같습니다. 경제위기에 대응하는 방법 등을 통틀어서 학습하는 한 해가 되는 게 필요할 것 같습니다.

사회=왜 바라는 대로 이뤄지기 어렵다고 생각하십니까. 곤경을 겪고도 교훈을 얻지 못하는 일이 반복되는 이유는 무엇일까요.

장회익=교육에 문제가 있지 않나 하는 생각이 들어요. 일제시대부터 억압적 교육이 이뤄졌고, 그 이후에도 내용만 조금 달랐지 사고력을 길러주지 못하는 교육이 계속됐습니다. 생각이 경직돼 기존의 사고에서 벗어나지 못합니다. 어려움이 있어도 그냥 그 자세로 버티고, 새로운 것이 와도 그 자세로 버티고…. 그렇게 교육받은 사람들이 그것이 바른 길이라고 생각해서 다음 세대에도 같은 교육이 이뤄지고 있습니다.

신영복=교육문제는 장기적 관점에서 중요합니다. 한 사회의 성격을 분석할 때 그 사회의 인텔리 충원구조, 즉 의사결정 그룹이 어떻게 재생산되는가가 대단히 중요한데, 우리 사회의 경우 교육이 창의적이고 주체적이지 못합니다. 그 이유는 우리 사회 지배구조가 오래되고 완고한 데 있다고 생각합니다. 교육문제를 완고한 지배구조를 지키기 위한 하나의 소프트웨어로 생각하고 있지, 창의성을 기르기 위한 열린 교육으로 생각하지 않는 게 문제입니다. 그렇기 때문에 소통능력·열린 사고·사회적 역량이 축소되고, 위기에 대한 대응도 좁은 틀에서 이뤄지지 않을까 걱정됩니다.

사회=2008년은 사회 분열과 대립의 해였습니다만, 새해에도 나빠지면 나빠졌지 좋아질 것으로 보이지 않습니다. 이미 여당의 무더기 법안 처리 강행 입장이 여전한 것을 보면, 한국사회의 대결과 갈등이 해결되기는커녕 점점 더 심화될 것 같습니다.

장회익=지금 상황은 8년 전 9·11 테러가 일어난 이후 미국의 상황과 닮아 있습니다. 부시 대통령은 9·11 이후 테러와의 전쟁을 펼치며 세계를 우리 편 아니면 적이라고 이분했습니다. 그 결과 엄청난 재앙이 일어났고, 미국 사회도 약화됐으며 그 정책은 결국 파탄이 났습니다. 우리 정부가 딱 그 모습을 닮아가고 있습니다. 그때는 문제가 테러였다면, 지금은 경제한파입니다. 경제한파를 상대로 전쟁을 벌이는데, 이것이 가진자를 위한 전쟁, 기득권을 위한 전쟁처럼 되어가고 있습니다. 일부 기득권층에만 유리하게 만들고, 나머지 모든 것은 내팽개치는 방식으로 가고 있습니다. 교육, 정치, 경제, 언론, 외교, 남북관계 등 모든 면에서 잘못가고 있습니다. 힘으로 밀어붙여서 당분간은 표면적으로 승리하는 것처럼 보일지 몰라도 부시가 몇년 후 바닥난 것처럼 결국 실패할 것이 불을 보듯 뻔합니다.

신영복=우리사회는 직선적 대립으로 파국을 답습해왔습니다. 현재 여야 정치 집단끼리의 타협이나 소통을 기대하기 어렵고, 우리 사회를 지배하고 있는 단색적인 흑백좌우와 같은 논리가 극복되기 어렵습니다. 현재는 자신의 정치적 이해관계, 당파적 입장을 유일한 코드로 밀고가기 때문에 여러 분야에서 과거회귀적인 대응형태가 나타나고 있는 것 같습니다. 결과적으로 갈등 속에 승패가 결정된다고 하더라도 그것은 단기적인 것이고 길게 보면 우리 사회의 역량이 전반적으로 약화될 우려가 있습니다. 당분간 국민적 합의나 대립을 해소할 수 있는 제3의 신뢰집단을 기대하는 것도 쉽지 않을 것 같습니다.

사회=경기 침체 때문에 새해 화두 역시 경제살리기가 될 것 같습니다. 그런데 정작 어떤 경제살리기인지, 누구를 위한 경제살리기인지에 대한 고민은 빠져있는 것 같습니다.

장회익=이번 기회에 우리가 경제에 대해서 많이 배워야 할 것 같습니다. 경제가 혼자 따로 놀아서는 안됩니다. 바탕에 생태를 깔고, 사회·정치 문제 속에서 경제가 어떤 자리를 차리할 것인가를 생각해야 합니다. 그런데 경제만 따로 떼서 잘되게 하자는 것인데, 요즘 전세계가 경제난의 열병을 앓고 있는 것도 바로 그런 생각에서 비롯한 것입니다. 경제의 바탕은 생산이겠지만, 생산의 바탕에는 생태가 놓여야 합니다. 생태적 건전함 속에 생산이 이뤄지고, 이것이 경제로 연결돼야 하는데 지금껏 생태라는 이 바탕을 도외시해왔습니다. 또한 빈부격차가 너무 벌어져 어려운 사람은 너무 어렵고, 있는 사람은 너무 많아서 낭비를 하는 불합리한 상황에 대한 반성도 부족해요. 이번 기회에 경제를 제대로 배우고 올바른 방향을 설정해야 한다고 생각합니다.

신영복=현 정권이 경제살리기를 선거공약으로 걸고 압도인 지지를 받아 집권했기 때문에 그 부분에 매달리는 것 같습니다.
물론 경제를 살려야겠지만 경제위기를 타개하기 위해서는 학습하는 게 있어야 합니다. 예를 들면, ‘경제를 왜 살리는가’와 같은 근본적 질문을 던져야 합니다. 사람들의 삶의 질을 높이기 위해 경제를 살려야 하는데, 마치 사람들을 경제 살리기의 수단으로 삼아버리는 거꾸로 된 방향으로 가고 있어요. 경제살리기가 유일한 목표가 되면 그 사회의 욕망구조가 굉장히 천박해집니다. 자연과 생태, 인간적 관계가 폐기되고 물질적 욕망만으로 사회가 천박화되지 않을까 하는 우려가 듭니다.

사회=경제의 바탕에 생태가 있어야 한다고 말씀하셨는데, 구체적으로 어떤 것일까요.

장회익=아주 간단합니다. 경제하면 성장이 따라붙는데, 지구는 절대 성장을 못합니다. 지구 반경이 1m도 더 커지지 않습니다. 그 바탕 위에서 우리가 살 생각을 해야 하는데, ‘지구가 한없이 넓다, 가서 개척만 하면 된다’는 식의 전근대적 생각에 사로잡혀 지구를 파괴하고 생태질서를 교란시킵니다. 생태질서를 교란하지 않으면서 유한한 자원을 장기적으로 어떻게 보존해가느냐의 바탕 위에서 생각을 해야 하는데, 이것을 성장논리로 갖다대니까 안된다는 거죠. 우리 생활이 나아지는 것 자체가 불가능하다는 말이 아니라, 자연에 최소한의 손을 대면서 거기에 열리는 과실을 갖고 살아가야 한다는 거예요.

신영복=
성장 신화에 매몰돼 있습니다. 근대 자본주의 사회는 성장 신화, 자연 파괴, 독점화, 식민주의화, 패권화의 과정을 겪었습니다. 이것은 지속 가능하지 않은 성장입니다. 패러다임의 전환이나 문화적 각성이 뒷받침되지 않으면 지금과 같은 자본주의 금융시스템의 파괴가 미봉적으로 수습되더라도 또다시 반복되고 이런 과정을 몇차례 반복할 것입니다.

사회=그런 면에서 한국인들은 성찰이 부족한 것 같습니다. 아직도 생태에 대한 인식이 낮고 성장 만능 논리가 팽배해 있습니다.

장회익=그것이 경쟁사회의 특징입니다. 경쟁이라고 하는 것은 가지면 가질수록 더 많이 가지려 하고, 앞서면 앞설수록 더 앞서야겠다는 것입니다. 건강을 위해 운동하는 것이 아니라 운동을 하기 때문에 오히려 건강을 해치는 역설이 일어납니다. 경쟁 사회에서는 일단 낙오해 직장에서 잘리기라도 하면 체제 안에 설 자리가 없어집니다. 그러니까 체제 안에 있어도 불안하고 부족하게 느끼면서 살아갑니다. 사회 안전망이 확충되고 함께 잘 사는 구조가 만들어지면 사람들이 적절한 수준에서 마음 놓고 자기 삶을 살 수 있습니다. 그런데도 경쟁에 빠진 이유는 과거에 그렇게 함으로써 어려운 상황을 넘어 여기까지 왔다는 개발신화, 성장신화에 젖어 있기 때문이죠. 사회를 정상화시켜야 할 앞선 사람이 제일 앞에서 경쟁을 독촉하고 있고, 국민들은 거기에 그냥 따라가고 있습니다. 경쟁체제라는 것은 우리가 따라가야 할 체제가 아닙니다. 독인데, 독인 줄 모르고 좇고 있습니다.

“성장만 좇지말고 인류 평화·생태 ‘큰 꿈’ 가져야”

신영복·장회익교수가 지난 29일 경희궁터를 산책하며 이야기를 나누고 있다. <우철훈기자>


신영복=자본주의 사회는 필연적으로 경쟁 사회입니다. 개인이든 기업이든 국가든 자기 주체를 무한히 강하게 만들기 위해 경쟁력을 높이기 위한 운동을 필연적으로 하게 되고, 이것이 독점, 팽창, 패권주의로 달려나가게 됩니다. 우리나라의 경우 큰 톱니바퀴에 물려있는 작은 톱니바퀴의 모습이라고 할 수 있습니다. 큰 톱니는 천천히 돌아도 되는데 작은 톱니바퀴는 더 속도를 내고 더 치열한 경쟁에 내몰리죠. 우리나라를 신자유주의 세계 질서에서 중상위라고 하지만 제가 보기에는 중하위예요. ‘이렇게 사는 게 아닌데’라는 통절한 반성을 하면서도 어쩔 수 없이 달려가는 상황입니다. 우리가 당장 달리는 열차에서 뛰어 내리자는 주장을 하지는 못하겠지만 근본적 상황을 성찰하는 지혜를 모아나가는 게 필요해요.

사회=토건 사업 중심의 인프라 건설에 거대한 예산을 투입하게 되어 있습니다. 한나라당 대표도 전국을 공사장으로 만들자고 했습니다.

장회익=가장 우려스럽고 무모한 일이라고 생각해요. 자연의 흐름대로 자연을 살리고, 그 안에서 함께 살아가야 하는데, 땅을 파고 물길을 바꾸는 식으로 살리겠다고 하는 것은 반생태적 발상이죠. 토건업은 없어져야 할 분야라고 생각해요. 극단적으로 말하면. 땅에 손을 대지 말고 살아야 합니다. 토건업에 인력을 투입해서 상당한 인력이 토건업에 종사하게 되면 작업이 끝나도 그 인력을 위해서 또 다른 일을 만들어야 합니다. 결국 생태계를 대규모로 파괴하는 것입니다. 국민이 힘을 합쳐서 막아야 한다고 생각해요.

신영복=두가지 문제가 있습니다. 첫째는 사회간접자본, 건설·토목을 중심으로 한 경기부양정책은 극히 단기적인 처방이라는 점입니다. 이는 장기적으로 자연파괴라는 고비용으로 반드시 부메랑으로 돌아오게 돼있어요. 두번째는 순수한 경제정책적 효과로 봤을 때, 토목중심 경기부양책은 일회적이고 고용창출 효과도 크지 않고 투자유발 효과도 상대적으로 낮은 분야라는 겁니다. 그럼에도 끈질기게 계속 되는 것은 건설자본의 파워가 상당히 세기 때문입니다. 현 정권을 이끄는 사람들의 사고가 과거 산업화 시대의 경제마인드에 머물러 있어요.

사회=이명박 정부뿐 아니라 김대중·노무현 정부도 생태주의적 관점이 결여돼 있었습니다. 세계 13대 경제 대국에 어울리지 않게 기후변화에 대한 사회적 관심도 매우 낮습니다. 왜 그렇다고 보십니까.

장회익=우리가 후진국 콤플렉스에 빠져 있기 때문이 아닐까요. ‘우리가 뒤처졌다, 앞선 나라를 빨리 뒤쫓아야 한다’는 생각에 사로잡혀 ‘우리가 지구의 주인, 세계의 주인’이라는 생각을 못해요. 세계 평화문제와 생태 문제를 생각하지 못하고, 남보다 뒤처질까봐, 조금 앞서나가면 누가 뒤따라올까 하는 두려움에 사로잡혀 있어요. 마음이 좁은 거죠. 자칭 경제대국이라고 하면 마음도 같이 커져야 합니다. 이대로 가면 인류가 공멸한다는 생각을 해야 하는데 그 생각을 뼈저리게 못해요. 그런 의식도 부족하고 스스로 생각하게끔 하는 교육이 없는 것도 원인입니다. 생각도 남의 생각을 끌어다가 누군 이렇게 생각한다면서 외우다 보니 앞서 내다보는 시각이 부족해요.

신영복=우리의 경제사회적 위기 구조를 보면, 내수보다는 수출 중심, 중소기업보다는 대기업 중심의 과거 산업화 시대에 이미 깔려진 성장구조의 레일 위를 달려오고 있다고 생각합니다. 현재 GDP의 75%가 대외부문으로 굉장히 높습니다. 국민의 정부, 참여정부도 기본적으로 신자유주의 정책을 추구했습니다. 앞으로도 미국과 FTA를 맺고 한배를 타겠다는 것인데, 어쩔 수 없이 큰 톱니바퀴에 물린 작은 톱니바퀴처럼 가고 있어요. 이런 상황에서 중장기적 대책을 세우기는 상당히 어렵습니다. 결국은 극히 단기적인 처방, 아주 표면적인 문제들을 막는데 급급한 상황으로 끌려가지 않을까 우려됩니다.

사회=이명박 정부도 녹색성장을 주장하지만, 녹색은 없고 성장만 부각됩니다. 녹색성장에 어떤 문제가 있다고 보십니까.

장회익=
속은 절대 건드리지 않고 겉에 녹색칠만 한 형국입니다. 녹색 산업에 인력을 투입하는 것은 필요하다고 보는데 현 정권은 그렇게 하는 것 같지도 않아요. 경제가 어려울 수록 제일 중요한 것은 약자를 보살피는 것입니다. 그러기 위해서는 일자리를 늘려야 하는데, 현대 산업이 첨단화될수록 기계가 인력을 대체해 사람의 일은 줄고 있습니다. 그렇다면, 우리가 일을 적게 하고 일자리를 늘리면 됩니다. 아주 간단한 계산이죠. 그런데 구조조정을 한다고 사람을 더 밀어내고 소수만 일하게 합니다. 그나마 일하는 사람도 경쟁 때문에 혹사 당하죠. 그러지 말고 하루 8시간 노동할 것을 하루 6시간 하고, 4시간 하고 나머지 시간을 유용하게 쓰면 됩니다. 일자리를 나눠서 낙오하는 사람 없고, 어려운 사람들이 최소한도의 생활을 유지토록 하면서 남는 시간은 좀더 유익하고 삶의 질을 높이는 쪽으로 활용해야 합니다.

신영복=경제를 내수중심에 중소기업을 기반으로 한 구조로 바꾸는 것이 필요합니다. 그러면 경제발전이 바로 고용으로 이어지고 경제발전이 곧 복지로 이어지는 선순환 구조를 만들어낼 수 있을 텐데 지금은 정반대입니다. 양극화가 심화되는 가운데, 한 사람이 10만명을 먹여살리는 기술이나 인재를 키워내자고 하는데, 굉장히 비인간적인 발상입니다. 10만명에 대해서는 전혀 생각하지 않는 거죠. 우리가 잘못된 욕망구조 속에 매몰돼 있긴 하지만 그래도 인간적 삶과 인문학적 가치에 대한 광범위한 공감대가 형성돼 있다고 생각합니다. 남대문 화재 현장에 꽃을 갖다놓고, 그 속에 서려있는 역사에 대한 사람들의 애정을 보면 우리사회 심층으로는 인문학적 문화가 튼튼히 자리잡고 있다고 보고 싶은데, 그런 성찰이 이뤄져야 한다고 생각합니다.

사회=한국인들이 행복하기 위해서 무엇을 해야 하고, 무엇을 하지 말아야 할까요.

장회익=꿈을 잃지 않아야 합니다. 일부 역행을 할지라도 길게 보면 역사는 앞으로 갑니다. 사람들의 의식 심층에는 지금 이대로는 안된다는 느낌이 공감대로 깔려 있다고 생각합니다. 신념을 잃지 않고, 우리가 좋은 방향으로 갈 수 있는 계기를 각자 자기 자리에서 만들어나가려는 노력을 하다 보면 언젠가는 크게 바뀔 것이라고 생각합니다. 저는 이런 말을 늘 합니다. 큰 목표는 크게 잡고, 작은 목표는 작게 잡자고. 인류 문명 전체를 위해 우리가 뭘 할 것이냐는 문제는 크게 생각하고 거기에 맞는 역량을 스스로 쌓아나가되, 작은 일에 대해서는 최소한의 욕구를 갖자는 것입니다. 자기에게 필요한 것은 생존에 직결되는 것만 최소한 대로 하고 나머지는 큰 가치를 위해 투자하자. 그런 신조로 살다보면 각자 할 일이 나타나고 개인적, 사회적, 전인류적 꿈이 이뤄지지 않을까요.

신영복=저는 개인적으로 어려움을 견디고 이겨내는 화두로 ‘석과불식’(碩果不食)을 이야기합니다. 늦가을에 과실 하나만 달려있는 나무, 추운 겨울 삭풍 속의 한그루 나무는 역경과 고난의 상황에 처해 있습니다. 창의성과 희망은 그런 역경에서 나옵니다. 그 과정의 첫째는 엽락(葉落), 잎사귀를 떨구는 겁니다. 거품을 거둬내고, 우리가 갖고 있는 잘못된 욕망과 환상을 청산하는 것이죠. 두번째가 채로(菜露)입니다. 나무의 줄기와 가지가 선명하게 드러나게 하는 거죠. 그렇게 우리나라의 경제·정치·사회가 어떤 것인지 근본을 직시한 뒤 가장 소중한 것을 키워내는 것입니다. 가장 소중한 것은 바로 인간적 가치입니다.

 

원문출처: http://news.khan.co.kr/kh_news/khan_art_view.html?artid=200812311659065&code=940100


2009년 2월 13일 금요일

`은행국유화가 유일한 해법이다`

노벨경제학상을 수상한 바 있는 조지프 스티글리츠 컬럼비아대 경제학과 교수가 독일의 공영방송 '도이체벨레'와 인터뷰한 내용을 긁어왔다. 제목부터 눈길을 끈다. "경제학자 스티글리츠는 말한다, 은행국유화가 '유일한 해법'이다"

 

규제완화만을 거의 유일한 금과옥조처럼 여기는 신정부의 경제정책 담당자들, 칠팔십년대 미국에서 공부하면서 레이거노믹스만 머릿속에 그득 차 있는 경제학자들의 반론이 있어야 하겠다.

 

원문출처: http://www.dw-world.de/dw/article/0,,4005355,00.html

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Economy | 06.02.2009

Nationalized Banks Are "Only Answer," Economist Stiglitz Says

 

In an interview with Deutsche Welle, Nobel-winning economist Joseph Stiglitz talks about nationalizing banks, the outlook for developing countries, and the need for an international financial regulator.

 

Joseph Stiglitz was awarded the Nobel Prize in economics in 2001. Under US President Bill Clinton he served as chairman of the Council of Economic Advisers from 1995- 1997. He was chief economist of the World Bank from 1997-2000 and was a lead author of the 1995 Report of the Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change, which shared the 2007 Nobel Peace Prize. He is currently a professor at Columbia University in New York.

 

DW-WORLD: Many experts fear that while things are bad now, we haven't seen the worst of the crisis yet. Do you share the belief that we are facing a long decline that could rival the great depression?

 

Joseph Stiglitz: We live in a very different world than during the Great Depression. Then, we had a manufacturing economy. Now we have a service-sector economy. Many people in the in the United States are already working part time because they can't get full-time jobs. People are talking more about the 'comprehensive' measures of unemployment, and these show unemployment at very high levels, around 15 percent. So it clearly is a serious downturn.

Another big difference between now and the Great Depression is then we didn't have a safety net. Now we have unemployment insurance.

 

글로벌 경기침체를 예견했던 경제학자 누리엘 루비니와 나씸 탈레브은 금융시스템의 붕괴를 막기위해서는 은행을 국유화할 것을 촉구한 바 있다. 동의하는가?

Economists Nouriel Roubini and Nassim Taleb, who predicted the global economic downturn, have called for a nationalization of banks in order to stop the financial meltdown. Do you agree?

 

중요한 사실은 은행들이 매우 나쁜 상태라는 점이다. 미국 정부는 이미 수백억 달러를 쏟아부었지만 그 효과는 거의 없다. 은행들이 파산했다는 것은 분명하다. 미국 시민들은 이미 다수의 주요 은행의 과반수 소유자가 되어 있다. 소유와 통제가 분리되어 있는 시스템은 어떤 시스템이라 하더라도 재앙에 이르게 된다. 국유화가 유일한 해법이다. 이들 은행들은 사실상 파산상태다.

The fact of the matter is, the banks are in very bad shape. The U.S. government has poured in hundreds of billions of dollars to very little effect. It is very clear that the banks have failed. American citizens have become majority owners in a very large number of the major banks. But they have no control. Any system where there is a separation of ownership and control is a recipe for disaster. Nationalization is the only answer. These banks are effectively bankrupt.

 

Hypo Real Estate bank sign with down arrow

Bildunterschrift: Großansicht des Bildes mit der Bildunterschrift:  Nationalized banks? Stiglitz says 'yes'

 

The Institute of International Finance estimates that the private flow of capital to developing countries will shrink by about two-thirds. Are we facing a situation where we could see a total collapse of many developing countries?

 

I think many governments of emerging nations actually have a much better central banking system than the United States. They realized the risks of excessive leverage, excessive dependance on real estate lending and so they took much more prudent actions. Many developing countries also built up large reserves and are in a better position to meet this crisis than they were a decade ago. But some will face very difficult times, potentially defaults. Some of these countries are suffering from having paid too much attention to what has gone on in the United States.

 

그러나 몇몇 국가는 매우 힘든 시기에 직면할 것이다. 디폴트 가능성도 있다. 이들 몇몇 국가들은 미국(자본주의)이 해온 방식에 지나치게 관심을 기울이며 (따라했기) 때문에 고통을 겪고 있다. 

 

Should steps be taken to help these developing countries?

 

Very definitely. I think it is absolutely imperative not just for the interest of these countries, not just from a humanitarian perspective, but from the perspective of global stability. It is not possible to have a strong global economy when there are large pockets of economic turmoil.

The World Bank has called for advanced industrial countries as they are bailing out their own industries and provide subsidies, to set aside some amounts for the developing countries, who can't compete on this uneven playing field.

 

US President Obama blasted banks for paying out billions in bonuses to executives while still on brink of collapse. Do yo agree with him that their behavior is "shameful" and "irresponsible"?

 

Yes, it is shameful and irresponsible. But it is not a surprise ... for years the executives of American firms have defended their outrageous compensation, saying it's important as an incentive scheme. How in the world can you give bonuses of billions of dollars when your firm has had record losses of billions of dollars? Unless you're rewarding people for failure you shouldn't be getting bonuses, you should be getting penalties.

 

세계경제포럼에서 독일의 메르켈 총리는 미국의 보호무역주의와 미국 자동차회사의 보조금을 비판했다. 메르켈 총리는 옳은가? 미국이 보호무역적 수단에 의존할 위험이 있다고 보는가?

 

In her speech at the World Economic Forum, German  Chancellor Merkel warned the U.S. of protectionism and criticized subsidies for American auto companies. Is she correct? Do you see a danger that the U.S. will resort to protectionist measures?

 

Yes, very clearly. We have always been aware that protectionism takes two forms: Tariffs and subsidies. Subsidies distort the playing field just like tariffs do. Subsidies are even more unfair and even more distorting, because while developed countries can give subsidies, poor countries can't afford to do so. Rich countries are distorting the level playing field by giving huge subsidies, not necessarily in the intention of protection, but with the consequence of protection.

 

메르켈은 최근 국제금융감독기구를 만들자고 제안했다. 이 의제에 대한 공감대가 확산되고 있다. 각국의 정부와 기업들이 자신의 주권을 국제기구에 내맡겨야 하는 이러한 구상이 현실성이 있다고 생각하는가?

Merkel recently called for an international financial oversight body, and concensus on the issue is growing. How realistic do you think it is that governments and companies would give up sovereignty to an international entity?

 

메르켈의 아이디어는 무척 중요하다. 나는 오래 전부터 이런 아이디어를 지지해왔다. 이미 실패한 IMF와 세계은행(World Bank)를 대체할 글로벌 경제 정책 조정 (기구)가 필요하다. 글로벌한 규제 없이 국경을 개방하라고 할 수는 없다. 적절한 규제가 이루어지지 않는 국가에서 만들어진, 위험한 금융상품을 아무런 규제 없이 미국으로 들어오도록 하거나, 그 반대로 미국에서 다른 나라로 가도록 허락하는 일은 앞으로 생각할 수 없다.  세계화를 선도한 국제적 기업들은 이제 국제적 규제를 촉구하는 데 앞장서야만 한다.

 

Merkel's idea is a very important one, which I have long supported. You need to have coordination of global economic policy that goes beyond the IMF, which has failed, and the World Bank. You cannot say that we have open borders without global regulation. It is inconceiveable as we go forward that we would allow financial products that are risky, manufactured in countries with inadequate regulation, to come without regulation into the United States and vice versa. International companies that are committed to gobalization should be at the forefront of calling for international regulation.

 

Michael Knigge interviewed Joseph Stiglitz

 

2009년 1월 9일 금요일

미네르바와 홍길동

가히 미네르바 사태다. 사태의 원인은 정부의 잘못된 경제정책과 경제위기 대응이다. 백성들은 경제위기의 포탄을 온몸으로 맞으며 죽어가고 있는데, 핵폭탄이 터져도 정면으로 맞지만 않는다면 괜찮다고 하는 지하벙커에 상황실이 차려지고 있는 게 현실이다.

 

여기에 최근에 정부 여당이 만들어내려고 하는 '사이버모욕죄'를 둘러싼 논쟁과 갈등과도 밀접한 관련이 있다. 문제의 본질은 '표현의 자유'다. 나중에 그릇된 것으로 밝혀질 것이 될지언정, 예측도 못한단 말인가? 김종배 씨는 이 점을 지적한다. (김종배, '미네르바 체포 차라리 잘 된 일이다', 프레시안 기사) 사이버모욕죄가 만들어지지 않아도 되지 않느냐고 묻고 있는 것이다. 하지만 미네르바 체포가 잘 된 일일 수 없다. 어찌 잘 된 일일 수 있는가. 그래서 누리꾼들은 심하게 반발하고 있다. 의적 홍길동을 지지하는 백성들의 마음이다. 고뉴스의 백민재 기자의 기사(미네르바 체포, 홍길동전이 현실로)는 이렇게 시작한다.

 

“…이때, 팔도에서 다 길동을 잡아 올리니, 조정과 서울 사람들이 어찌된 영문인지를 아무도 몰랐다. 임금이 놀라서 온 조정의 신하들을 모으고 몸소 죄인을 다스리는데, 여덟 명의 길동을 잡아 올리니 그들이 서로 다투면서 말하기를, “네가 진짜 길동이지 나는 아니다”하며 서로 싸우니, 어느 것이 진짜 길동인지 분간할 수가 없었다….”

 

사람들의 입에 재갈을 물려도, 말이란 물처럼 흐르고 벌레처럼 붕붕 날아다닌다. 유언비어(流言蜚語)는 그런 뜻이다. 위정자들은 옛부터 유언비어를 유포하지 말라고 했다. 하지만 유언비어는 유포하는 것이 아니라 유포되는 것이다.

 

경제를 비롯해서 우리 현실에 대해 정확하게 알고 판단하고 싶어하는 사람이 있고, 그런 판단에 요구되는 각종 정보를 제공하는 사람이 있는 한, 그리고 그런 판단을 표현하는 사람이 있는 한, 미네르바는 없어지지 않는다. 그래서 미네르바는 홍길동과 같다.

 

 *그림은 신동우 화백의 홍길동

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아래의 글은 백민재 기자의 기사다.

 

 

“…이때, 팔도에서 다 길동을 잡아 올리니, 조정과 서울 사람들이 어찌된 영문인지를 아무도 몰랐다. 임금이 놀라서 온 조정의 신하들을 모으고 몸소 죄인을 다스리는데, 여덟 명의 길동을 잡아 올리니 그들이 서로 다투면서 말하기를, “네가 진짜 길동이지 나는 아니다”하며 서로 싸우니, 어느 것이 진짜 길동인지 분간할 수가 없었다….”



너무나 친숙한 소설 <홍길동전>의 한 장면이다. 홍길동은 도술을 부려 허수아비로 자신과 똑같은 모습의 홍길동을 만들었다. 결국 팔도에서 잡혀온 홍길동은 여덟 명이었다는 이야기. 그런데 이 <홍길동전>이 2009년 대한민국에서 그대로 재연될 판국이다.

‘인터넷 경제대통령’이라 불리던 논객 미네르바가 잡혔다. 그런데 이 사람이 미네르바인지, 미네르바가 한 사람인지, 여덟 명인지, 도무지 분간하기가 쉽지 않다. 21세기 대한민국의 조정에서는 혹 미네르바의 허수아비를 잡은 것일까.

8일 검찰이 미네르바로 추정되는 박모(30)씨를 인터넷에 허위 사실을 유포한 혐의(전기통신기본법 위반)로 긴급 체포했다고 밝혔다. 그러나 미네르바의 정체를 두고 온 인터넷이 들끓고 있다. 검찰이 밝힌 박씨의 신상정보와 그동안 알려졌던 미네르바의 신상정보가 전혀 다르기 때문.

지금까지 미네르바는 해외 체류 경험이 있는 증권맨 출신의 50대 남성으로 알려져 있었다. 이는 지난해 정보당국 관계자의 입을 통해 알려진 내용이다. 그런데 막상 검찰은 30세의 무직 남자를 잡아들였다.

월간 <신동아>는 지난해 12월호에 미네르바의 기고문을 싣기도 했는데, 그는 “증권사에 근무한 적이 있고 해외체류 경험도 있다. 그러나 나이에 대해서는 코멘트하지 않겠다”고 밝힌 바 있다. 그러나 검찰 관계자는 “체포된 박씨의 출입국 관리 기록을 살펴봤지만 외국에 나간 경험이 거의 없다”고 밝혔다. 앞뒤가 맞지 않는다.

지난해 11월에는 ‘미네르바의 지인’이라고 밝힌 네티즌이 등장하기도 했다. 그는 자신을 경제학 교수라고 밝혔으며, “최근 지인을 통해 K라는 사람이 미네르바라는 사실을 알게 됐다”는 글을 올려 화제를 모았다. 그는 이 글에서 “30년도 더 넘은 오래전 추억”이라며 70년대 학창시절과 해외 체류 당시의 ‘미네르바’를 회상했다. 그러나 검찰이 잡아들인 사람은 70년대 학창 시절은커녕 79년에 태어난 사람이다.

미네르바는 현 경제 상황과 외환시장에 대한 분석과 더불어, 이명박 정부의 경제 정책에 대해 거침없는 비판을 한 바 있다. 그의 예측은 맞아 떨어졌고, 수많은 경제 전문가들도 미네르바의 글을 보고 현장 경험이 풍부한 경제 전문가일 것이라고 추측했다.

그러나 체포된 박씨는 금융기관나 증권사에서 일한 경력이 전혀 없으며, 심지어 전문대 시절에도 경영학이나 경제학을 전공하지 않았다. 그저 독학으로 경제를 공부했다고 한다.

상황이 이러니 네티즌들의 의혹이 커지는 것은 당연하다. 미네르바의 정확한 시장분석과 예측이 과연 독학으로 가능하냐는 의문부호가 이어진다. 벌써부터 일부에서는 “그 사람이 미네르바라면 나는 워렌 버핏이다”, “엉뚱한 사람을 잡아들여 미네르바로 몰고가는 것 아니냐”라며 검찰 발표를 믿지 않는 분위기가 조성되고 있다. 박 씨는 검찰 조사에서 “내가 미네르바의 이름으로 올린 글은 모두 썼다”고 주장하고 있으나, 이마저도 믿지 않는 분위기다.

검찰이 진짜 미네르바를 잡아들였다고 해도 논란은 남는다. 결국 30세 무직자의 글에 온 나라의 경제 전문가들과 증권가 애널리스트, 정부 부처 관료들이 한바탕 소동을 벌인 셈이다. 그들 중에는 유명대학의 학위를 딴 사람들이 수두룩하다. 굴욕이라는 단어가 이처럼 잘 들어맞는 경우도 없을 것이다.

표현의 자유 침해 논란도 벌어지고 있다. 인터넷에 경제 전망과 예측을 한 것이 과연 사법처리 대상이 될 수 있느냐는 것. 또 “미네르바 주장이 일부 틀렸다고 하더라도, 소통의 한 형태로 이해해야 한다. 앞으로 사회전반의 모든 예측은 틀리면 다 잡아간다는 뜻이냐”는 목소리도 나오고 있다. 벌써부터 온라인에서는 ‘미네르바 석방 서명운동’이 시작됐다.

현재 검찰은 혹시 다른 미네르바가 있는지 여부를 수사하는 한편, 미네르바가 사용한 다른 IP 주소에 대해서도 계속 추적하고 있다. 조정은 무능하고, 백성은 고통 받는데 잡아온 홍길동이 진짜인지도 모르는 기막힌 상황. ‘돌아온 일지매’도 아닌 ‘돌아온 홍길동’이 대한민국을 흔들고 있다.


경제위기와 도서관

"경제적인 위기 상황에서는 도서관 이용률이 높아진다"는 흥미로운 내용의 기사. 2008년 미국도서관협회의 보고서에서도 이러한 내용은 확인된다고 한다. 한국은 어떨까?  궁금증이 생긴다.

 

출처: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28546246/

 

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People Turing to Libraries During Economic Downturn

 

KNDO-TV
updated 8:29 p.m. ET Jan. 8, 2009

YAKIMA, Wash. - In tough economic times, visiting the library is helping many people save money.

 

Staff at the Downtown Yakima branch say registration for library cards has been up by about five to 10 percent annually for the past three years.

 

Clara Eustis is the manager of the downtown branch. She says people have tight budgets and can no longer afford to buy certain items that have always been at the library.

 

"Some people used to buy their own books and now they decided it's gotten to be pretty expensive," says Eustis. "They're trying to cut back in different things and they discover once again the library is a great value."

 

The American Libraries Associations (ALA) tracks usage at libraries during slumps in the economy. The number of people using libraries during this period is above previous economic downturns, according to a 2008 ALA report.

 

The increase in visitors, however, does not make the library immune from its own financial trouble. Eustis says the need for items besides books creates a tight squeeze for the library.

 

"We have to kind of reevaluate how we spend our funds as far as collections," says Eustis. "Since more people are asking for electronic resources, we kind of have to take a look at our collections policies and say maybe we shouldn't be buying as many books."

 

To get your own library card, visit your nearest branch and bring photo ID as well as proof of local residence. After filling out a one-page form, you will get a card in a matter of minutes.

 

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야키마 분관에 대하여

출처: http://www.yvrl.org/#

 



In 1903, Andrew Carnegie confirmed his grant of $10,000 to erect a Free Public Library Building in North Yakima. In 1904, the Yakima Public Library was established.

In 1944, Rural Library District #1 of Yakima County was established by election. In 1951, the Rural Library District and the City of Yakima pooled their library activities into the Yakima Valley Regional Library. The agreement was revised in 1962 with a seven-member Board.

During the 1940s, the cities of Zillah, Union Gap, Granger, Naches, Mabton and the unincorporated town of Buena joined the Yakima County Library. During the 1950s, Yakima and the Rural Library District pooled their facilities and resources and the cities of Sunnyside and Moxee joined the Regional Library. During the 1970s, the cities of Tieton, Harrah and Selah joined the Regional Library and the Summitview Library was established. During the 1980s, the cities of Moxee and Harrah annexed to the rural library district. During the 1990s, the SouthEast Library was established and the city of Toppenish joined the Regional Library. During the 2000s, the cities of Toppenish, Wapato, Zillah, Sunnyside, Selah and Yakima annexed to the rural library district.